与女人们的对话

喜剧片英国2007

主演:艾伦·艾克哈特,海伦娜·伯翰·卡特,奥利维亚·王尔德,布莱恩·格拉格提,布兰娜·布朗

导演:汉斯·卡诺萨

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更新时间:2024-01-11 01:16

详细剧情

岁月流逝,人生周转,见惯了爱人们的喜怒哀乐,不觉便看淡了婚礼上的信誓旦旦。失去的终将失去,一切都随风而逝,不触动一丝涟漪。在友人的婚礼上,男人与女人相遇。他们是一对分手多年的夫妻,血气方刚的年龄毁掉了原本海誓山盟的爱情,多年后再次见面,时光已销蚀青春的容颜,似乎那些原本不可饶恕的细节与片断也变得微不足道。然有些东西一旦撒手,便注定永远失去……

 长篇影评

 1 ) Quotes from IMDB

Woman: The illusion of effortlessness requires a great effort indeed.


Man: Time really can move in two directions. It doesn't matter to the universe anyway.


Man: It's good to be happy. But it's so fucking hard, you know.


Woman: Tell me, how old is umm... Sarah the Dancer.

Man: Oh, she's a... she's a college graduate.

Woman: Her age?

Man: She's a recent college graduate.

Woman: Yeah, like 21.

Man: 22.

[Woman walks away. Man follows]

Man: But she's 23 on August the 12th!

Woman: 23 on August the 12th... Well, that's a beautiful age.

Man: Why would you wanna know?

Woman: You know why I wanted to know.

Man: Maybe I do. Say it anyway.

Woman: I wanted to know because I wanted to know. I wanted know if you were flirting with me.

Man: What does Sarah's age have to do with it?

Woman: I am the same age as you, I think, and a man, my age, who prefers 23 on August the 12th might not flirt with someone who is... lets just say 15 years past 23 on August the 12th.


Man: You're 38 and you look it.

Woman: Fuck you.

Man: Right. And next year you're 39, and then 40. And after 40 you may as well die.

Woman: Thanks.

Man: If the cardiologist is, decides that you are too old and decrepit and ugly to be at all lovable, I am available to tolerate you in your golden years.

Woman: Thank you.


Woman: There are no happy endings in our future.


Man: Why did you come, really?

Woman: Do you want me to say I was hoping I'd see you?

Man: Yes - and I want you to mean it.

Woman: You're so romantic...

Man: By romantic, you mean old fashioned?

Woman: No, by romantic, I mean romantic.


Man: [in bed, before they are about to have sex] What are you thinking?

Woman: That it's probably a mistake.

Man: You don't have to do this.

Woman: As if the act in itself mattered.

[... ]

Woman: It's technicality. Don't you know what we're already done?


Man: What's it like being a doctor's wife?

Woman: A bit better than being a lawyer's wife. My first husband was a lawyer, so you see I have experienced both.

Man: And what's the difference?

Woman: The lawyer wore nicer suits.


Woman: You're just a dirty old pervert.

Man: Yes, I am. But I'm your dirty old pervert.


Man: If I told you I still loved you, that I always loved you, that I loved you to distraction, would you leave him?

Woman: No.


Man: What was your ex-husband like?

Woman: You know perfectly well what he was like.

Man: Mmhmm, refresh my memory.

Woman: No.

Man: Honestly I can't remember - the memory starts to go around forty, you know.

Woman: [sigh] He was red. He was kind of yellow - and black, and pink, and orange, and blue.

Man: What the fuck does that...

Woman: Magenta, purple, maybe a bit of maroon...

Man: Hey! What does that mean?

Woman: I don't know! It's what I see when I close my eyes.


Man: I thought married women aren't supposed to be Bridesmaids.

Woman: Who says?

Man: Bridesmaids are brides in training, they're like matrimonial interns.

Woman: Ah, it's just a small custom.

Man: Bridesmaids are supposed to be virgins.

Woman: Well, I don't see any virgins out there, did you?

Man: I didn't check.


Woman: I'm sorry. Come here. It was just something... it was just different. I didn't expect it. You used to be so thin. I mean you were insubstantial, really.

Man: God, the complements keep coming.

Woman: Yeah, but now... Now, you know what? Look at it this way. There's a grandness to you.Like, you know, the rings in a tree trunk asserting the passage of the time: Like "I have earned the right to fill up more space in the one universe."

Man: That's bullshit.

Woman: I tried.


[first lines]

Man: Wish me luck.


Man: [on relationships] In my opinion, when it gets too serious, it's over.


Woman: [Man takes off his t-shirt] Oh my god, you're fat.

[Man puts his t-shirt back on]

Man: I am not.

Woman: Yea, you are. You're far fatter than you're used to be.

Man: And you're far crueler than you used to be.


Woman: But sometimes, people who really love each other, well, they have an uncanny knack for making each other miserable.


[Last lines]

Man: It's good to be happy. But it's so fucking hard, you know.


Woman: Don't worry about him, he's just trying to get laid.


Woman: A woman never has a man's intense focus as much as she does before sex.


Woman: [on phone] I'm having, um, you know french fries, french onion soup and um, french toast I think and a pickle. Hm? Yeah, it's all very french except for the pickle.

 2 ) Untouchable Touched Love

F(man): Do you know why man chases many woman?
M(female): Why?
F: Because, they are afraid of death.


F: Do you know what attracts a man the most about a woman?
M: Heart?
F: Her mind.

F: Do you know what makes the man want the woman desperately?
M: Sex?
F: Knowing, she Wants him, as well.

F: Do you know the biggest secret that man has?
M: They all want a second, third... wife?
F: That, in the end, woman control the world.
M: Why is that?
F: Don't you know, everything man does, is to win his woman. Man bring food and money home, man buy flowers for woman, man work so hard to create his empire... yet they don't own the world. Woman, woman control man, thus the world.
M: ...



F: You know, I had so many women in my life, so many. I liked them, but I did not love them all. I love you, and I thought for a few seconds, I love you and I like you, which is rare.
  
F: Why you did not born earlier?
M: Because, you wouldn't love me as much as now, if I would. In fact, you might not even notice me or we might not meet each other. You might still drown to your casanova life, taking girls out like lighting a cigarette and tossing it before reaching its end.
F: That's not me.

M: That's not love, it's just crush. Rest for a couple of days, you will be fine. You will return to normal, like nothing happened, and you will treat me like another girl in life.
F: No, I would never do that. I look into your eyes, there is something, something about you... I couldn't tell, I couldn't figure it out. I know I love you.

M: I do not mess around with a married man.
F: I know. I understand that about you long ago. But there is just something, something in life you just cannot control, things are things, it just happened...

Girl: How are you two doing tonight? What brought you here?
F: Very well, thank you. This is our last night in town, so we are here.
Girl: Oh, that's great. So who is this beautiful, young lady?
M: We are just friends.
F: We are having a date. We are here only for the weekend, and somehow, I fell in love with this girl, and I am cheating on my wife.
Girl: ... oh, isn't that great? (walk away)
           


I suddenly realize, somehow, there are that kind of special women who can be attractive to classy men at any age in their life. No matter how old they are, they held up their head, and walk straight confidently. And those women will only taste better with age like red wine.


当你老了

叶芝(英国)

当你老了,头白了,睡意昏沉,
炉火旁打盹,请取下这部诗歌,
慢慢读,回想你过去眼神的柔和,
回想它们昔日浓重的阴影;
多少人爱你青春欢畅的时辰,
爱慕你的美丽,假意或真心,
只有一个人爱你那朝圣者的灵魂,
爱你衰老了的脸上痛苦的皱纹;
垂下头来,在红光闪耀的炉子旁,
凄然地轻轻诉说那爱情的消逝,
在头顶的山上它缓缓踱着步子,
在一群星星中间隐藏着脸庞。

 3 ) 被忽视的好片子,平淡,自然

我非常喜欢这个影片。首先是拍摄的手法。非常大胆地将整个画面切成了两个对等的部分。这种手法是很常见的,通常用于表现同时进行的事件。但是这个影片居然从始至终地用两个摄像机在两个画框中同时运动。开始让人感觉很不适应,但是一旦适应了以后就很喜欢。因为这个影片完全是围绕着两个昔日的情人之间的对话、相互的试探。各自的感情脉络分别在一个独立的框架中发展,这样非常有利于表现人物之间的交互作用和个性的细节。而且,两个画框也不是永远地一人一个,而是不断的变换,有时是不同的角度拍摄一个人物,有时是同一个角度非别拍摄两个人的表情细节,有时是一边是现实一边是回忆,有时是一边是现实一边是幻想。简直是太神奇了。
我喜欢这个影片的另一个原因是演员的精彩表演。影片的场景很简单,主要的内容就是两个人的对话。因此成功与否完全取决于台词和演员的表演。我看过Helena Bonham Carter不少片子,都是配角,但是印象还是挺深的。这次看她当主角还是挺痛快的。她本人的相貌和扮相都不是那种美女路线,但是很适合这个角色---年近40的中年妇女,有点姿色但是不出众。Araon Echhart的表演也不错。两个人的配合完美极了,有点庖丁解牛的感觉。
还有一个重要的原因就是剧情和台词。其实剧情的主线是很俗的,旧情人偶然或者故意的相遇。相互试探、勾起的回忆、复合的想法、各自的生活和家庭压力,说到底是现代城市人对于感情的反思,对于真挚感情的渴望,对于失败的感情的挫折感,对于新的感情的不安全感。对于现状的厌倦和对于过去的回忆拉近了两个人的距离,但是不安和犹豫一直如鬼魅一般推开他们。这种矛盾不是那么剧烈却挥之不去。
剧中的几个小高潮也非常出彩,在电梯里的故事简直要把人笑死,而天台上的相互谅解让人动情,被扔出窗外的礼服让人沮丧,而最终出租车的镜头让人彻底无奈。虽然画面终于合并成了一个完整的镜头,但是两个之间的距离却变成了无法跨域的鸿沟。
另外请注意,很罕见,本片中两个主角都没有名字。他们各自的家人都有名字,但是两个人始终没有喊对方的名字,而是以平和的对话开始,以平和的对话结束。
绝对值的一看的影片。"My heart was broken." "So you married a cardiologist."

 4 ) 两个太过相爱的人,才有本事让对方过得痛苦不堪

有点像爱在三部曲系列,纯靠两人对话撑起整部影片。

这段感情中看起来像是男人处于劣势,小心翼翼地接近、试探,甚至不惜放弃一切想要破镜重圆。而女人一直冷静理智,除了极少数几个场景,始终不肯完全敞开心扉。

然而谁又知道,女人是不是十年前被伤得太深,才会毅然决然远走他乡,才会至今仍不想卸下防卫呢?

女人说,两个太过相爱的人,才有本事让对方过得痛苦不堪。

虽然知道如果是俩人破镜重圆的结局,这部电影就废了,但看到俩人一脸疲惫地各自坐着计程车渐行渐远,还是止不住地难过啊。

有一段时间完全没法想象分手这件事情,一想到便止不住地难过。并不是因为舍不得某个特定的人,只是单纯觉得分手这件事情让人难过。两个人从陌生到熟悉,再从熟悉到陌路。貌似一切回到了原点,然而一切都不一样了。

最后吐槽一句,爱奇艺看的这部电影,字幕做得太差了,好多漏翻错翻,大大影响了观影感受。一个大大的差评。

 5 ) 你是我一场好梦

她说:“我爱他,但有时彼此相爱的人,却都很擅长让彼此痛苦。
现在的我很幸福,但是有时我还是渴望来点悲伤。”
为着那点被热烈地爱灼伤隐隐作痛又强烈存在的实感,
她借得一个理由,飞越千里,回到当初出逃之地,
见他一面,也一并缅怀已故的自身,在身渐渐麻木,心缓缓老去之前。
相识年少,可有信任完整交托,不用遮掩,大口抽烟或喝酒,放肆跳舞。
当时年少,不知如何细致对待彼此,再回首已百年身。
他们隔着时光的空缺,试探对话,小心触碰,安静亲吻,
在对峙之中,慢慢的卸下伪装,袒露自身,却仍旧不敢释放内心的热切。
同样角逐的,还有成年人的理智以及来自年少未浇灭的澎湃情感。
她身上的新伤疤,他未曾参与,虽然那曾是最熟悉的身体。
因此,天台上,他们所构想的未来,也只是没有路径的空中楼台。
这本身,也只是一场有时限的短暂旅行。
那点悲伤的感觉,只适合当平淡生活的一点调味剂,无法成为主旋律。
恋爱时是轰轰烈烈的这一人,而相守偕老却是另一个某某。
在心力透支,喧闹过境之后,甚至不惜收起华丽羽毛换取长相守的安宁。
或许,因为爱的分量太重,容易产生失衡与制约,
而淡如水的深情厚谊,更经得起生活中粗糙颗粒的打磨。
或许也正是如此,没有结局也便好似无法结束。
他们之间的爱,依旧饱满完整的在内心延续。
那就让它永远保鲜的不接触空气中杂质的化学反应吧。
时钟滴答,她是灰姑娘,丢掉美丽的伴娘礼服,回归现实生活。
喜欢这个结局,收拾行装与情绪,安静离场。
已经分道的两条轨迹,只需相望与遥祝,无需再纠葛或交集。
就当彼此,是一场好梦。
Good Night!

 6 ) BlaBlaBla......

聪明的处女作,平易近人。
不太理解片名所指,可以将电影看作是不那么浪漫,多一些诙谐的Before Sunrise/Sunset。没有字幕,双镜到底,到底还是要费一些脑细胞。
Helena Bonham Carter是昨晚见到的第二个年约四十身材走样的女人,她还是要比身边的男人Aaron Eckhart冷静、理智、现实一些。坚持那么多年抽烟却不沾酒的女人。确是有些神神叨叨不知所言,伴娘论,他8月12日满23岁的小女朋友,对年龄这个越来越庞大的数目的避讳,对他毫不留情的讽刺。
好像她知道得清楚,38岁的女人应该割舍意外的激情。对19岁时曾是恋人的他来说,再剧烈的火花也只不过是心头一热。他的样子倒好像真的回到了过去。
平静告别的他们find nowhere to go。最后一幕,两边的镜头终于打破边界。画面上并坐的两人,实际却并未殊途同归。

2005年东京电影节评审团特别奖/最佳女演员奖

 短评

特别有趣的一部电影。观众大概最关心的是“屏幕到底什么时候合到一起”这个问题吧。而当他们再次分开各奔东西时,屏幕终于合到一起。c'est la vie.....相爱的人,他望她留下,她却只能离去。搞成舞台剧本来也可以的,不过那个分屏的idea太绝了!

6分钟前
  • 小斑
  • 力荐

题目应更改为 《与过往爱情的对话》。导演很用心,抽丝剥茧的叙事手法令人令人眼睛一亮。

8分钟前
  • 小骨
  • 推荐

她在洗澡的时候他说那番话的那段时间大概是我见过的“最孤独”的时刻了

12分钟前
  • 饥饿艺术家
  • 力荐

像我像往日还未抽烟,不知你怎么变迁。

16分钟前
  • JulyChan
  • 还行

最熟悉的陌生人,男人总是不切实际的浪漫,所以最后平行车后座上只能说It's good to be happy. But it's so fucking hard, you know.

17分钟前
  • Carf
  • 力荐

天哪也太令人难过了。heartbreaking. 爱真的有happy ending吗?intimate relationship真的有出路吗?人与人之间,只有短暂的、不孤独的幻觉。太难过了。再往前一寸都是举步维艰,背靠背走倒是很快就海阔天空。

20分钟前
  • 曼仔
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看过的片里分屏用的最妙的,每一个分屏都是有意义的情绪表达或视角对比,最后在乘车分开的一刻又神奇地合到一起。小小地用了一点《去年在马里昂巴德》的回忆错位之壳,像爱在系列一样用小说式的对白脚本探讨了男欢女爱。所谓得不到的才是最好嘛。海姨真美啊,啊,啊,啊【

23分钟前
  • CharlesChou
  • 力荐

好一出《炮在黎明破晓前》。男人与女人切着情由,火苗从心头烧到唇角,对话是炮,缠绵是炮,现实也是炮,炸这朝夕不足的几小时,每个人都把过往现今烧得毫无矫饰,裸露着缠着年轮的躯体与灵魂,说你侬我侬不过是风是月,是鸡啼前的汹涌与日出后的决堤。真是喜欢他们的交锋,以及四十岁的真实,还有车门关闭前无法遮掩的眷恋。幸福啊幸福,真他妈的难。

27分钟前
  • Mr. Infamous
  • 推荐

「很高兴遇见你,不过我觉得我比以前更孤独了。」干净的对话,没有过多的渲染,尽管如此话唠,但一点也不觉沉闷冗长,分屏的idea很棒。It's good to be happy, but it's so fucking hard, you know.★★★★

29分钟前
  • Q。
  • 推荐

男主和女主演技尚佳,但他们之间依旧缺乏火花。汉伦娜脱掉晚礼服时,岁月在她身上留下明显的刻痕,这让我想起《爱在瘟疫蔓延时》,原著是马尔克斯的《霍乱时期的爱情》,结尾他们在船上的sex是我最不喜欢的部分。还有《心动》结尾的鞠躬和相片。那些不算完美的结局或许才是生活的真相。

33分钟前
  • momo
  • 推荐

海伦娜很可爱。不是那种轻松的爱情小品,而是对于生活过往的纪念。还算清新吧。幸福就是很难。

36分钟前
  • 九尾黑猫
  • 还行

这年头,幸福真他妈难找.

41分钟前
  • Iris.妙
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时光不可逆转,年少不可重来

42分钟前
  • 欢乐分裂
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有生之年 / 狭路相逢 / 终不能幸免

43分钟前
  • 哪吒男
  • 力荐

一次别有用心的邂逅,一对鸳梦重温的男女,一夜和一辈子,无论发生什么了,为了明天的生活可以继续下去,即使内心很清楚眼下的一切决定都是错的,也要理智的去做。有时候幸福来的太早,年少时我们不懂,等到哪天懂了,一切也为时已晚了。很喜欢这类爱情片,偶尔也能跟着回望一下自己的人生。★★★★

46分钟前
  • 亵渎电影
  • 推荐

《爱情交响曲》(与女人们的对话)。影片最后一句:幸福真他妈难。点睛之语。为之前的一切。

47分钟前
  • 是和有
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最懂得彼此的人,却不一定能相守到老;当初以为只是放弃了一段感情,后来发现其实是放弃了一生。 很不错的一部话痨片~~

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我不在时你在干吗?在无聊的变老。

53分钟前
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真是一部不“正确”的电影,真是喜欢它。格局虽小,故事却很完整。大概只有曾经互相深爱过,再见面才能如此充满怀旧又温情又多少带点遗憾和怨恨地相处。当然前提双方都不是奇葩,双方内心深处还彼此相爱。然而相爱真的不一定相守。

55分钟前
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十年里 人们刻意不在我面前提起你 但他们不知道这其实适得其反 让我更想你。可曾经就是曾经,就像在这部电影里,没有名字的他们,只是男人和女人。

57分钟前
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